{"id":11561,"date":"2025-01-22T15:51:55","date_gmt":"2025-01-22T14:51:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/?p=11561"},"modified":"2025-01-22T16:10:29","modified_gmt":"2025-01-22T15:10:29","slug":"interview-with-teresa-mirga","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/interview-with-teresa-mirga\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Teresa Mirga"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div style=\"height:21px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"399\" src=\"https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Zgoda-Mirgi-1-768x399-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-11564\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Zgoda-Mirgi-1-768x399-1.jpg 768w, https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Zgoda-Mirgi-1-768x399-1-300x156.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Teresa Mirga, artist&#8217;s private archive<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:21px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Interviewed by<\/strong> <strong>Andrzej Grzyma\u0142a-Kaz\u0142owski<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>When you search for your earliest memories, landscapes, sounds, faces of people, who and what do you see?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s Czarna G\u00f3ra, my river \u2013 the wild Bia\u0142ka, my family, the Roma, G\u00f3rale (highlanders) around, and all that music that surrounded and accompanied me since childhood. I wasn\u2019t an exception. It was the same for all of us, the mountain Roma, for whom song is like water \u2013 you can\u2019t live without it. I was lucky to have everyone around me singing \u2013 my mother\u2019s and father\u2019s sisters, the whole family was full of singing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:21px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Teresa Mirga &amp; Ka\u0142e Ba\u0142a - Gilaw Mange\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Ncb2IAZoDUg?start=13&amp;feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:21px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>This \u201chome\u201d singing, daily singing \u2013 what was it like?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;The women sang. While cooking, cleaning, playing with the children. Someone was always humming something. My aunt would peel potatoes and sing. I didn\u2019t just grow up in this, I sought out this music since I can remember. It called to me. In those days, speakers, megaphones, and radios played continuously in homes, mostly music. I was three or four years old and always heard something intriguing around me: wonderful performers, fantastic Polish, French, Italian songs, Skaldowie, Maryla Rodowicz, Czerwone Gitary, Marek Grechuta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Roma songs \u2013 were they old songs, or were they improvised, created on the spot?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Both. On the base of the archaic songs, new ideas appeared in the lyrics and music. The aunties would tell old stories but add their own \u2013 here and now, what troubled or delighted them \u2013 they\u2019d sing about it. The song constantly changed. After a sorrowful, tearful part, something different, consoling, would suddenly emerge, and the verse would gain more sunshine and joy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Teresa Mirga &amp; Ka\u0142e Ba\u0142a - Nie odchod\u017a \u017cycie\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/HufrnVFgXdg?start=167&amp;feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Though still on the same tune, the same melody?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, although the melody could also be deceiving. It might seem that we\u2019re singing to a cheerful tune, but the lyrics are dramatic, about poverty, loss, misfortune. I sometimes have trouble with this in workshops. Teaching non-Roma Roma songs, I also translate the lyrics, and this surprises them, makes it difficult. It\u2019s not easy for them to get into the mood of a seemingly cheerful song when the lyrics are tear-inducing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Czarna G\u00f3ra, neighbouring Bukowina Tatrza\u0144ska, is influenced by the Polish Podhale region, but it\u2019s also Spisz with a slightly different culture and Slovak influences.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, of course, in both music and language. The older generation still spoke Slovak \u2013 my parents remembered Slovakia here and their first contact with school, which was in Slovak. Later, my mother taught herself to write in Polish. The Spisz highlanders\u2019 dialect was commonly used daily. In music, there\u2019s also more Czardas heard than in Podhale. A walking Czardas, in two parts \u2013 a march (walking part) and a faster, livelier section. Oh yes, that came from Slovakia and Hungary. Among the Roma, we also have these variations. I sing these songs at concerts. The songs of the Spisz Roma consist of three parts. First: halgato, slow-paced, free, without a clear rhythm; second: medium tempo, rhythmic \u2013 that\u2019s the walking Czardas; and third: fast, the so-called polka. In Slovakia and Hungary, Roma also sing this way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>What about what they call &#8220;sz\u00e1jb\u0151g\u0151&#8221; in Hungary, where Roma singers are masters of that distinctive improvisation, imitating percussion instruments, drums, metal cans, spoons \u2013 was that known in Czarna G\u00f3ra?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">No. But when I heard this type of singing, I realised that I also sing a bit like that, vocalising the melody in a language invented at the moment. And I really don\u2019t know where it came from, it came naturally. At the same time, so much can be expressed through these sounds. I\u2019ve noticed that it really opens listeners, who follow the melody and can let their imagination freely interpret what it suggests at that moment. But ultimately, it either didn\u2019t make it over the mountains, or it was forgotten, lost. Unfortunately, much of our shared culture with those Roma has also disappeared \u2013 clothing, instruments, even that remarkable singing. The culture of the Polish Mountain Roma is also vanishing at an increasing rate. By the time I started performing on stage, there were already stage groups in southern Poland that, instead of drawing from our local culture, showcased the folklore of Roma with wagon traditions, Russian influences \u2013 in dress, dance, music, and dialect. That wasn\u2019t ours!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>In commercial terms, perhaps this is understandable. Audiences want spectacular shows. Many still remember the &#8220;Roma&#8221; group or know the hits from the film &#8220;Gypsies Are Found Near Heaven&#8221; \u2013 those groups catered to such expectations. But were there any artists or groups before you who offered audiences the authentic, original culture of the Mountain Roma?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">No, I don\u2019t think so. Only individual musicians, violinists, brought virtuoso Czardas to stage groups. For example, Miklosz Deki Czureja and his son in &#8220;Roma\u201d. But the songs and dances of our Roma, I don\u2019t think you could find them anywhere. Recently, Monika Janowiak, Head of the Department of Cultural Studies and Musicology at the University of Wroc\u0142aw, found an <i>a capella <\/i> recording of old songs sung by a woman from Czarna G\u00f3ra. I was completely moved and delighted \u2013 it\u2019s probably the only such recording.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Against the backdrop of other Roma settlements, was Czarna G\u00f3ra an exception, unique in some way? Were there sympathies or antipathies with Roma from other settlements?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">No, relations were good, normal. We met at religious fairs or celebrations. People are people \u2013 some didn\u2019t get along, while others married. But musically, Czarna G\u00f3ra probably stood out a bit. There were many musicians in the settlement. Two bands would gather for weddings and parties \u2013 they played in restaurants and inns. My mother\u2019s brother, J\u00f3zef Mirga, was a very good and well-known violinist. He played not only in Roma bands but also in top highlander ensembles at the biggest weddings, where he was invited as the lead violinist. Highland youth also came to him to learn violin. He was a musician!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Perhaps a bit stereotypically, highlanders are often seen as not being very tolerant of &#8220;others&#8221;.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Well, they can be stubborn. But we had good neighbourly relations. I think music played a role in this. These two cultures were always close. And since highlander culture is also strongly rooted in music, there was more understanding and opportunities to meet, play together, and get to know each other. It was easier for us to understand and respect each other. And blacksmithing certainly played a role too. There were three forges in Czarna G\u00f3ra, and while working, people would talk a lot. Then came the shared school, friendships, and acquaintanceships. My parents\u2019 generation already understood that we needed education. That it would provide work \u2013 so they really pushed us to study. But school was varied. Some teachers forbade us from speaking Roma among ourselves, or singing our songs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>From the catalogue of school subjects and obligations, which did you like the most?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Polish, of course. I devoured books and poetry. I had a good teacher \u2013 she suggested readings, and knew what might interest me. I loved Jan Kochanowski. His &#8220;Laments&#8221; moved me deeply. I lost a sick little brother very early, and this drew me closer to Kochanowski and probably to poetry in general. I read Mickiewicz, S\u0142owacki, and didn\u2019t even mind that they were compulsory readings. I always had a book under my pillow at home. I read whenever I could. And the house was tiny but beautiful \u2013 with siblings, a whole crowd, always someone at home, it wasn\u2019t easy to find some peace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Did music appear as a choice then too?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, I was about 10 or 11 years old, and it was already very deliberate, almost a necessity. The boys in the settlement had guitars, I listened, watched, and dreamed about a guitar! My mother saw what was happening with me, so we went to Zakopane, and she bought me the dream guitar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I learned by ear. I watched the boys for chords, but mostly, I used trial and error, arranging it my way by ear. For a year in primary school, I also attended music school for singing. But I went there without basic theoretical knowledge. I sang in the choir but didn\u2019t know or want to learn sheet music or follow those rules and conventions. My teacher said, &#8220;It can\u2019t be like this, Teresa, you must sing the first or second voice, but you wander as you please\u201d. So, we had to part ways. But over the years, I often recall or discover something from that time. I also love all those songs I was taught \u2013 Schubert, Moniuszko, others. It certainly wasn\u2019t a wasted time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>As you entered adulthood, more aware of your musical abilities, weren\u2019t you drawn to bands, popular music, or even earning money through it?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Not at all. I sang to myself and the river. I developed on my own, sang, and played the guitar. There were also friends with me \u2013 Roma children are very open musically, curious about music. I\u2019d take my guitar, and we\u2019d sing together by the river for hours.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>But there usually comes a difficult moment when talented children or teenagers disappear \u2013 due to responsibilities, starting families, or daily hardships that stifle natural talents. But that didn\u2019t happen to you.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, what happened here? There was a moment when I became a bit known. Earlier, I had become the mother of my late sister\u2019s children and wanted to give them more, fill their time. I read books to them, we went to the forest for berries and mushrooms, we stayed close to nature, and I always served them music. The oldest, Natalia, had friends \u2013 twins \u2013 who were also with us and sang beautifully. Their father, Jan Kacica \u2013 blind, an outstanding singer \u2013 heard us. He sang and played percussion in many bands. He joined us, and accidentally, we formed a pretty good little group. When Father Stanis\u0142aw Opocki began organising a Roma pilgrimage to Limanowa in the early \u201990s, he invited us to sing in the church. Invitations to churches increased, and we also started performing regularly in a cafe in Czarna G\u00f3ra. Singing in harmony with tambourine, spoons, and guitar \u2013 these were essentially concerts. Artists from Poland also began visiting Czarna G\u00f3ra. With the Pogranicze Foundation, we travelled to other Roma settlements, where I held singing workshops. The W\u0119gajty theatre from near Olsztyn also came. They gave a performance and invited us to a campfire for joint music-making in the evening. My uncle almost forced me to attend. I was hesitant, questioning whether I needed all this fuss. I was going through a tough time, avoiding people. But when my uncle asked, I had to go. They later invited us to their place in W\u0119gajty, where we did workshops and evening concerts. People from the world of culture and theatre saw us there and invited us to Warsaw. In Warsaw, as the &#8220;Ka\u0142e Ba\u0142a&#8221; band, we performed with musicians from Nowy Targ \u2013 violin and accordion, a twin with a mandolin, me with a guitar, and four voices. It was powerful. Next was Gorz\u00f3w Wielkopolski, the <i>Romane Dyvesa<\/i> festival, and more invitations, concerts, festivals. We played quite a lot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>And &#8220;Ka\u0142e Ba\u0142a&#8221; is still playing.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, but there were difficult times. The girls got married, there was a wave of emigration abroad. Many musicians left as well. At one point, the band practically ceased to exist, it was just me and my brother, Jacek Kacica. I asked highlander musicians to join, and for a while, we played in a mixed lineup. The band changed, but we kept playing. For several years, Piotr Ondycz (now with Viki Gabor\u2019s band) played mandocello with us. Later, and still today, Piotr Hortmanowicz plays guitar with us. Recently, I recorded music for a film with a Roma pan flute player from Romania, who will probably start touring with us. The band is established but open to changes.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Przechwytywanie-7.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"742\" height=\"488\" src=\"https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Przechwytywanie-7.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-11568\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Przechwytywanie-7.jpg 742w, https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Przechwytywanie-7-300x197.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><i>Photo: Archive from the Roma Advice and Information Centre; \u201cKa\u0142e Ba\u0142a\u201d band founded by Teresa Mirga in 1992.<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Most of &#8220;Ka\u0142e Ba\u0142a\u2019s&#8221; repertoire consists of traditional pieces. To what extent do you transform and develop them, and how much is played in its raw form?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Of course, we try to stay close to the original versions, but our arrangements and thoughts about the pieces are ours and contemporary. So naturally, our influence on the final shape is significant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>But your work also makes up a significant part of &#8220;Ka\u0142e Ba\u0142a\u2019s&#8221; repertoire.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, from the beginning, even in my youth, I wrote both music and lyrics. I always wrote, everywhere and always. I had a notebook, and during lessons, instead of paying attention and taking notes, I\u2019d write thoughts, fragments of poems, song lyrics that came to mind. Jan Mirga \u2013 a Roma from Czarna G\u00f3ra (author of Roma fairy tales) \u2013 was our history teacher and would take my notebook, returning it after class with words encouraging me to write but asking me not to do it during history, leaving the next teacher to deal with it. I never imagined that one day someone would want to publish my writing and music in a poetry collection or albums.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>The first recording of &#8220;Ka\u0142e Ba\u0142a&#8221; was a cassette, &#8220;Rupuni gili&#8221; (Silver Song).<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, in 1994. It was quite a sensation, a revelation for many, showing that Roma music could be so different from what most thought of as Gypsy music \u2013 those stage hits. The cassette also included my compositions. In the same year, the \u201cSp\u00f3\u0142ka Poet\u00f3w\u201d in Podkowa Le\u015bna, thanks to Piotr Mitzner, published my first poetry collection, &#8220;Czemu tak?&#8221; in Polish and Roma versions. Fortunately, this creativity grew, leading to more poetry publications and several albums.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>There\u2019s no shortage of talented young people. Where are the students?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, indeed, the workshops attract many people, often very talented and promising. It must be said that they are almost exclusively non-Roma, interested in our culture, wanting to learn and sing. There are also consultations for theatre productions and films. I want this music to be understood. If someone has the ambition and desire to engage with it, let them do it well. Agata Siemaszko and Marysia Natanson are excellent examples of artists who didn\u2019t need to be taught singing because they were already great singers. They just needed to taste the song, feel its rhythm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>And the Roma, where are your successors?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">There aren\u2019t any, not visibly. Czarna G\u00f3ra is slowly disappearing, and it\u2019s similar in other settlements. Many people have emigrated abroad \u2013 perhaps our talents will emerge there. Of course, there are talented young people who occasionally appear, even nationally, in some talent shows, bringing us joy with their success. But I\u2019d also like to hear those wonderful old songs from them, maybe not as popular and shiny. Perhaps something similar will happen as with Polish traditional and folk music, where it almost disappeared before being rediscovered by youth who sought out old musicians and revived their music. I hope to live to see such a revival.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Garwolin, 20 November 2024<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Interview by Andrzej Grzyma\u0142a-Kaz\u0142owski<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"TERESA MIRGA + KA\u0141E BA\u0141A- &quot;ROMANE DYWESA&quot; 1993 r. 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A2.5.1: Programme to support the activities of cultural and creative industries operators to stimulate their development.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"499\" src=\"https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Znak_KPO_Poziom_RGB.jpg-2-1024x499.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-11106\" style=\"width:344px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Znak_KPO_Poziom_RGB.jpg-2-1024x499.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Znak_KPO_Poziom_RGB.jpg-2-300x146.jpg 300w, https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Znak_KPO_Poziom_RGB.jpg-2-768x374.jpg 768w, https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Znak_KPO_Poziom_RGB.jpg-2-1200x585.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/e-drom.pl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Znak_KPO_Poziom_RGB.jpg-2.jpg 1215w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Teresa Mirga, artist&#8217;s private archive Interviewed by Andrzej Grzyma\u0142a-Kaz\u0142owski When you search for your earliest memories, landscapes, sounds, faces of people, who and what do you see? It\u2019s Czarna G\u00f3ra, my river \u2013 the wild Bia\u0142ka, my family, the Roma, G\u00f3rale (highlanders) around, and all that music that surrounded and accompanied me since childhood. 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